A Foreign Affair is a scam site

Sep 13, 2012
review #345181

I would like to warn anyone who cares to listen about this profile http://loveme.com/women/info124763.htm In early August of 2012 I purchased a virtual email address from A Foreign Affair to send an introduction letter to the lady featured in this profile. I was pleasantly surprised when approximately two hours after sending my introduction letter I received an email announcement there was a letter in my profile inbox on AFA and basically I needed to login and pay $9.99 to open and read this letter. I was a bit disturbed by this because my main reason for purchasing the lady's virtual email address was to send and receive letters from her via our private email account and not having to pay the $10 cost of receiving and sending each letter in addition to the $3.50 per attached photo. However, I decided not to make an issue about this because I was really attracted to this lady's profile; I had selected her after scrolling for several hours through approximately 1500 online profiles until my eyeballs hurt, therefore when I received a letter from her expressing an interest, all my concerns about having to pay in order to open her letter disappeared.

In this first letter she asked about four questions one of which was "Why was I looking for a foreign wife L?" I could have asked why was she looking for a foreign husband? But I was polite, I wrote back immediately and told her that I will take a few days to prepare thoughtful answers to all her questions. I had received her letter on a Saturday and by Monday evening I had written and sent her a 2-½-page letter with at least four photos. The cost was $40+.

Initially, there was a reasonable lapse of time between sending and receiving responses that appeared to take into account the time for translation and forwarding of the letters but over the next two weeks after the first three exchanges of letters the delivery pace increased very rapidly. It seemed like I was receiving a reply within three hours after sending a letter and the responses were very generic, weak and always included two photos of the lady. There were no description or comments accompanying the photos. I guess I was supposed to be charmed by her beauty and no words were necessary. For example, I would send descriptive letters about my work, pastime and daily activities to reassure the lady that I was genuinely interested in revealing myself to her and not just a guy playing games on the Internet. The responses I received would consist of a few sentences asking more questions. There was hardly any substantial information coming from the lady. After 37 days of correspondence and $230, the only thing I learned about this lady is that she has wonderful parents; she never mentioned their names. A sister with a husband and baby living in Kiev, and that she was a cosmetology nurse who thinks beauty will save the world. I have never heard of a cosmetology nurse; perhaps they do exist and I will Google the subject.

After about twenty days of this nonsense of me answering her questions, revealing my personal life and not getting any meaningful communication I began to doubt the validity of this profile. Finally when she sent me a letter inquiring about my fears (as if she were a psychologist) My response was that I feared being the victim of an internet dating scam operation because although I had purchased her virtual email address I had continued to receive letters via the Loveme.com site rather than my personal email and was paying $10 each time I send and received mail. The motive of scamming to generate profit was clearly evident by the rapid responses, meaningless photo attachments and the lack of information sharing with regards to the lady. The letters tended to sound as if a male wrote them, which was a bit troubling but I thought it was reasonable to attribute this to the gender of the translator.

I expressed my concerns about scamming to the lady in a polite and non-judgmental way. I explained how photos can be misappropriated by anyone and used to create profiles without the real owner of the photos being aware of their illicit use. I expressed my interest in getting to know her but due to the high cost of our correspondence and my plans to visit her within 90 days, that it was important to resolve my doubts about the validity of the profile with which I was communicating (I was literally communicating with only a photo. There was no first name, address, phone or email. There was absolutely no transparency. It was like being blind) the purpose of the validation was to quickly establish a relationship built on trust and confidence before we are months into the relationship.

The lady responded with outrage to what I considered to be a reasonable and common sense request in light of all the scamming that is occurring on international dating sites. The response was "Are you kidding?" which sounded too American for me and made me suspect the letter writer could be at AFA offices in Arizona. She told me how hurt, offended and disappointed she felt. I felt somewhat guilty for hurting her feelings but I thought it was important to resolve this issue because my feelings of distrust were too strong by now and the relationship was unlikely to develop and prosper with such feelings of insecurity.

She had sent me a series of photos that were taken so many years apart that it was difficult to recognized her in the series because each photo appeared to be a different woman, although with careful examination, facial features such as the eyebrows and lips appeared to be the same. I suggested she simply send me a week old photo wearing a set of large earrings that were featured in several of the photos and this would be sufficient proof that she is capable of reproducing herself "graphically speaking" and not just someone with a collection of model photos with no knowledge or access to the original owner. To avoid appearing unilaterally demanding or overbearing, I also offered to provide whatever proofs she may require to settle any doubts she might have about me. Her response was that she couldn't produce the earrings because they were loaned to her years ago when she worked as a model. I tried to figure out a simple and easy way, short of flying to Ukraine myself to verify whether this lady I am corresponding with was not just a stack of photos. After about a day it occurred to me to contact some one in her city and ask her if she would be willing to meet this person at a time and place of her choosing just so they could see her and simply report back "Hey guy, I saw the lady and she looks like the lady in the photos you sent us." I thought this was very simple; after all, if she ever wanted her friends in the States to check me out, I would be falling all over myself in my eagerness to meet them.

I contacted a married couple that was willing to meet with the lady at any local café or public gathering place. I sent the lady a letter explaining the arrangement and got no response. Perhaps the lady truly resented my efforts to validate her identity and did not wish to participate in this effort. Her reasons are open to speculation but I saw this as a small effort to work through a problem in an unconventional dating scenario. I personally would have no qualms in doing it if the roles were reversed. Perhaps readers of this article may offer different perspectives as to why this would not be an appropriate undertaking. My personal feelings are the person in this profile and the letter writer are not the same people. The letter writer is in the background using the profile to manipulate others but is unable to appear as a person or update the profile photos with anything new. My last contact with this profile was today when I received a letter in which she/him claimed to have smiled at my *** efforts to check. I was not *** enough to send a $10 response so I just deleted all photos and letters that are related to this brief correspondence and get ready to move on. I should feel fine in a couple of weeks.

The husband of the couple I contacted to meet with the lady is a very proficient computer technologist, therefore he was able to conduct a photo search with the lady's profile photos and found an account with 49 of her photos on a Russian social network site http://vk.com/id19955094

It is possible the owner of this account and photos has no role in creating the profile http://loveme.com/women/info124763.htm because her photos are of good quality and are easy to download, it is conceivable that a criminal could have used her photos to create fake profiles with the intention of running a scam.

I must admit that I had been scammed out of $230 in the past 37 days by corresponding with a possibly fake profile. But who was it that scammed me?? Who benefited monetarily from my financial loss? Lets follow my money or (what used to be my money) to find out. According to my Bank of America Statement, my money went

Here to what I believe is the payment processing center of A Foreign Affair offices in Arizona.

08/31/2012 Show additional information for activity type cards -9.99 CHECKCARD #### WORLDWIDE DATA LINK 602-553-8178 AZ... activity type cards status type icon cleared Cleared. Select to mark activity type cards -9.99 CHECKCARD #### WORLDWIDE DATA LINK 602-553-8178 AZ... as reconciled -9.99 1,038.09

John Adams, the public face of AFA can smile and cajole as much as he pleases when promoting his seedy looking romance tour videos, but as far as I am concerned, due to my recent experience and a few others that I had overlooked in the past, he is nothing but a pus-filled-maggot who runs a criminal enterprise that steals from his countrymen. It is quite possible for him to operate a profitable, transparent operation with loyal customers if he would just make a sincere effort. Instead, his business operations acts as an umbrella for an army of scammers both here and abroad that preys on men who are earnestly seeking to satisfy that most natural of human desire of finding love and companionship.

I think the best way to reduce the revenues of scammers and unethical dating sites is not use them at all and travel to the country of your choice on your own. If you are courageous enough to consider being with a woman from a culture that is significantly different from your own, then you should certainly be able to make your own travel arrangements. $1100-1500 should get you a roundtrip ticket to most countries in Eastern Europe, an additional $1500 should be sufficient for lodging and a local interpreter/ tour guide for a week. You can do all this via the Internet and by-pass the riff-off businesses, romance tours etc and have a wonderful vacation to boot. If you don't have this kind of money then you have no business seeking a foreign wife.

I would like to sign this article but I will have to choose the anonymous path due to the unsavory comments directed at one John Adams. My life has been relatively stable and prosperous recently and I wish to keep it that way.

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Anonymous

Jul 29 Gilbert, Arizona

I have had a similar issue. 8 months of correspondence. Her emails were becoming more and more regular full of mundane dialogue. It ended when I received an email that was for someone else with similar content. My lady couldn't speak English and had no way to access the internet, however she was able to respond very quickly. I get paying for translation services, but paying for photo's? No translation needed for that! Well ironically I received an invitation from Russian brides 2 weeks later and it was my girl, only this one spoke English and provided about 30 photo's. I'm sure some people are lucky on these sites but with technology today and a little effort there's no need to pay translation services. I see it simply as a scam that's it plain and simple

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EX AFA CLIENT 2008

Jul 08 Sydney, New South Wales

AFA IS A SCAM SITE.
JOHN ADAMS KNOWS ABOUT HOW THE SCAMS WORK BECAUSE HE HELPS SET THEM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS A CLIENT OF AFA IN 2008 AND SCAMMING FOREIGN MEN IS 10 TIMES WORSE THEN YOU THINK.
FIRST OF ALL, ASK JOHN ADAMS-KEN AGEE HOW THEIR TEEN *** SITE KISS4IMPACT IS GOING?.ASK, WHY IT WENT UNDERGROUND AFTER IT WAS EXPOSED BY ANOTHER PISSED OFF EX AFA CLIENT?
MEN, DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE TESTIMONIALS GIVEN BY MEN AT THE SOCIALS, THESE MEN HAVE NO IDEA THEY ARE BEING SCAMMED.
AFA DO NOT PERFORM ANY BACK GROUND CHECKS ON ANY OF THE WOMEN LISTED WITH ALL THEIR B.S WEBSITES. PLEASE READ THAT AGAIN TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHY AFA PROMOTE MODEL LOOKING YOUNG WOMEN IN BIKINI'S AND SHORT SKIRTS ON THEIR 'PHOTOSHOPPED' PROFILES. AFA HAVE NOT CHANGED THEIR SCAM WOMEN PROFILES SINCE 2007 THAT I KNOW OF. AFA IS SET UP TO SCAM THE MEN.

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mowie

Jan 17 Little River, South Carolina

Guys, Yes obvious scam! I may be able to offer some good advice here as I've been doing online dating thing "foreign" for a while. Most of the sites are scams or seem to be. The good news is you don't have to be a victim and "YES" you can find success but you have to be aware and you have to be careful. I am easily able to *** through the scammers very quickly with 5 rules in this simple method. I've written a doc on this if interested contact me at: mdemartine@gmail.com

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guest

Jan 16

thanks for posting. 99.999% of dating sites are scams. if the sites themselves are not scams, then the people in them are.

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iserlorn

Dec 12, 2013

Don't waste your $$$ on emails and letter and chat to 'profiles', it's pointless and useless if you don't get off the chair and fly there to meet those women in person; once you find a potential match there, you can return home and communicate all you want, you know the 'real' person you are talking to. There is a better service, Dream Connections, for those who are serious and ready to skip all the craps.

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corndoag

Nov 16, 2013

thanks for helping me to not get scammed.
im aussie and ive had a Russian GF thru Elena's models site, i paid the site 10bucks and then proceeded to have a relationship with a great girl in Moscow. Having read this review about foreign affair and the comments its clear its a scam.

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SURDES

Nov 06, 2013

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO SHED THIS LIGHT ON AFA.. WHICH IS ANYHTING BUT A TRANSPARENT SITE. GIRLS NOT RESPONDING OR WRITING LETTERS THAT DONT REQUIRE ANY REPLY EXCEPT THE A FINANCIAL ONE THROUGHT HE SITE !!

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Anonymous

Nov 05, 2013


There is no doubt that you were scammed. I have printed out copies, proof of fake letters. Form letters sent to me and friends that are the same. One even uses two names in the letter coming from Cebu. I have compiled information from other guys. I have met women that I had written to that never heard of me.
I do not know why John Adams let this continue when it could end up in a some class action which would ruin what I think could be a good business. He just needs to clean it up. More legitimate pictures and girls that are really available.An honest letter writing system would help his image. He has to know what goes on in these offices.

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scam ed

Jun 07, 2013 Eugene, Oregon

The letter express email system is a waste of money. The letters are intercepted by AFA "contractors". Their whole goal is to keep the money rolling in from the letters. Your best bet is to travel to her country. Go directly to the office and pay for the introduction. That way if she doesn't show you don't pay. You can sit there all day and have them call girls for you. If you do go with the letters im sure AFA will be glad to keep taking your money.

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loveme.scamed

May 20, 2013 Maricopa, Arizona

Agree 100%, its a letter writing scam...I bookmarked a bunch of pretty faces almost a year ago, logged in and guess what.. they are still single. I did the same as above, wrote a letter saying if you want to talk please email me xxx.yahoo and make a throw away account if you want. I said it in a nice way, but she reply's with *** generic letter not addressing anything I even said (another $10 wasted to read it). Wheres the *** states attorney office, completely fraudulent!

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halfcast

Jan 16, 2013 North Shore, Auckland

I was a member on the A F A website but I have now cancelled my membership through the link they gave for the paying members but though I was a free member I spent over $80 dollars on replying to letters. Then to find they charged me another $18 just for canceling my free membership how rude can you get. It came up on my bank statement as global Acc. and had the same date I canceled my membership with A F A such scammers. I watched one of their latest videos for this week and instantly I could tell the woman were filmed in a studio set as I picked up that the women were sitting in front of a backdrop of one of the local spots in the Philippines.

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sunny

Dec 19, 2012 Washington, District Of Columbia

International dating bad business especially foreignladies love me foreign affair elanas models all in bed together.beware was ripped off $90 still credit yet will not let me login. wrote many times they do not care and need to be shut down. Meet women on Yandax Facebook other free sites...Easy to fall in love with picture you see how many russian international dating sites and try to find number of mariages f same sites none or a few. These companies prey on men women pay nothing to join or write a few sites do charge women still a scam.Yahoo personals did this a few years back only scamers from russia all countries passed their security undetected. If many women write letters to you on any site esp foreignladies aka foreign affair jims list has some truth photos of female scamers again like poloticians all in bed together These sites bottom line their pockets your money. Women profiles look like *** shoot photos open letter one line that costs 7usd.In short you are scamed by these companies before you try to write. Thousands upon thousands of attractive women on all sites lack of communication age difference cultural difference reason for no marriage.Watch prime time russia rt many who travel there once do not want to go back again.Communism is still there?Why women not charged and paid to be on these sites. Men have to travel to other country while these millionares site operators laughing all the way to bank..After writing scammers from russia on yahoo personals it... Show more

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Ex AFA Client

Dec 15, 2012 Melbourne, Victoria County

I was an AFA client in 2008. I travelled to meet a woman 9 years younger then myself after 4 Months of correspondence via AFA. I travelled to Nikolaev and I had a back up contact if something went wrong or I needed help. The woman had no connection with me, in fact, I didn't recognise her as the woman I had been writing too, this is how much AFA photoshop all the women's photos. Before I travelled back home , I had a feeling that I'd been scammed and that the interpreter had been writing to me and not the woman..So I found my 'girlfriend' on another site and made up 2 false profiles and sent 2 'winks' via Online Dating Ukraine website. Both letters came back with exactly the same sentences on it, word for word.
The AFA agency in Nikolaev is called www.aslavgirl.com and they are located on Sovietskaya Street. I contacted John Adams about the letter scam and he didn't respond.
While in Nikolaev I contacted my back up 'contact' who was a young woman in her 30's. She told me how the agencies worked because she has been offered employment to write 'love letters' to men to keep them online. 50 letters per day plus commission. And It's the interpreter who pays the woman in the photos her money, not the agency people. This is how the agency people can look you in the eye and say, they don't pay the women. The agency that wanted this woman to scam men trough letters was he AFA agency www.aslavgirl.com. These people are affiliated with all the other scam agencies.... Show more

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Harrison Holmes

Nov 14, 2012

Thanks for the information, my friend. You in all likelyhood saved me from getting scammed. I was looking at their site and noticed that many of the women in the pictures looked like models. It appeared to me that many were taken from magazines, internet sites etc. and posted by someone operating a scam. The girls looked too good to be true. I also noticed one of the girls pictures that was on a different site about 5 years ago. This set up a red flag in my mind about the whole site. Thanks again for the heads up.

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